Guest. Someone says S1 has less feedback problems. There is a reason why Dylan and Streisand preferred the AE5400 at the grammys (2011). This particular mic, in my opinion, is truly outstanding on stage. The 105 is a super card, not hyper card, bit of a difference in polar pattern, off axis rejection and off axis coloration. Any guys out there heard the new Shure KSM9? Shure KSM9. You are already looking at the right range of vocal microphones if you are looking for highest quality on your vocal: I would also add the Sennheiser E965 to that list. If I mess up, shame on me. My bands have LOUD stage volume but mic still great. One of the guys at church uses Neuman KMS-105 at church for lead vox and I was REALLY gassing for this mic before we started using it. Frequency response seems to be very similar. Shure Beta 57 works amazingly well on a Baritone voice. It really depends on the PA. Allen&Heath GL3800, onboard micamps; a bit of rolloff at 80Hz on the channel. But for acoustic and some R&B-type acts, it works very well (for me). Thanks! Guys, If you do a shootout of these all great mice, please consider also the Heil PR35. I would say that these mics are evenly matched in caliber, with a few variations. So the preamp on-stage might be over-complicating things. Bottom line: I will use both of these microphones (and quite happily) for different occasions, without being too picky about specific applications, simply because they each have their own color. Re: OT: Vocal mic Neumann KMS104/105 or Shure KSM9 I replaced all our SM58's with Electro Voice ND767a's They are inexpensive (street price in the $80 range), with better freq response than the 58's and much better feedback rejection. The KMS 105 is a studio grade vocal microphone for stage use. I don't like them at all. The BGVs are all on SM86s, and the vocal submaster is run through a DBX 166A comp/limiter. Its price for a new one here (220 €) is less than a the half of a Neumann KSM 105 (490 €). I used (and still use) the 105 for years on the road, but about a year ago got the Shure (KSM9HS, I believe) as well. I sold my KMS 105 to buy the KSM9, and I like the Shure … An in-depth and practical comparison of the Neumann - KMS 105 vs KMS 104 vs KMS 104 Plus. Alright. Purchased the RPW184 for my current setup and it works great! Neumann Sound on Stage. It works famously on snare and I love them on reeds too, especially when the musicians adjust their mic stands for solos and such. Thank you all! I haven't heard the top-of the-line Shure KSM9 yet, however I have used a Shure Beta 87A since they came out and I liked them better than a regular 58. 1.93 in. I've been using the ksm9 for a while now. An excellent vocal mic that truly gives the Neumann Sound on stage, it excels as a live and studio microphone for speech, acoustic-stringed instruments and brass. But... you can hear how it sits in a live mix. The KMS 105 is developed to optimally transmit the human voice making it the first choice for demanding live applications. I agree the 105 isn't very rock and roll. EN PL DE. Shure did not have such a mic then but they do now. I've used the Shure Betas. Skykrab, May 19, 2011. Also any opinions on comparisons between Beta 87A and KSM9 are welcomed. Neumann KMS 105 and Shure SM58 Design Moving further, let's see the external of these microphones and starting with Neumann, this one comes in a Velcro pouch that stores the unit and its mounting to handle both threading which is very impressive yet, not surprising for the price point. They aren't in the same league as these mics. The KMS 105 made the night so much easier. However, the KMS 105 is not the best mic for live performance, as it is especially more susceptible to feedback and is poorly suited for a more aggressive environment. Quality of diaphragm components Shure KSM9 has a “low mass” “gold plated” “Mylar” diaphragm,. Shure KSM9 Shop now at Amazon. Vocal Microphone. You really need to try them out for yourself. If I had to choose one i would personally go with the KSM9, especially as you can switch the pattern if you are wanting something more open. It's much better for band touring - excellent rejection, but great tone and response. Shure KSM9HS. Let's get this straight: the Neumann KMS 105 sounds even better! 1.93 in. But I think either a Sennheiser e965 vs Neumann KMS 105 or 104 (which apparently has a bit more bass proximity) is a GREAT choice. I was wondering if y'all would help me out with a bit of knowledge. As for what you say about them being revealing of vocal ability, I'm not worried about that. Today I review the Neumann KMS105, one of the best live stage microphones you can buy. The peaks are usually down -3dB across the DBX. I have tested this mic with everything out there but I've spent a lot of time and effort comparing it to the KMS 105 and KSM9 over the last eighteen months and it has consistently come out on top. Thanks Matt. I like the response of this mic and it made the night so much more enjoyable. It's not necessarily as bright as the KSM9, but you won't spend a small fortune and it's an absolutely fantastic sounding microphone. Let's get this straight: the Neumann KMS 105 sounds even better! Sure, a nice preamp would be cool to have, but I don't think it's going to be a huge improvement of the sound. Of course, but in your situation do you think grabbing a 105 would have been the answer? You could also get the venerated Neumann KMS 105, about $629, I think. I have used all the E9xx capsules, and most of the Shure SM and Beta capsules. I'd never been a big fan of AT mics in general but this was the answer for his voice. Most mics are not returnable so I would really like to know the answers before I buy. In my experience, the 105 is a great mic. I've heard from several FOH pals that the KSM9 and KMS104/105 are sonically very much in the same ballpark. Honestly, that makes me want one, but I really need to have a shoot-out between the two of them. I even used it to pick up the ambient sound of an electric bass to mix with the direct signal with great results. Its not every time we get to hear how the story ends. Cool! KSM9 microphones offer exceptional consistency across all frequencies, providing more gain before feedback, while decreasing proximity effect. Thanks thumbsup. So I ended up ordering both the KSM9 and the KMS105, with the intention of returning one. Shure KSM9. I will have to disagree. Now on SALE. There was no convincing him that it was the wrong mic to use, he loved the "sound" of it. Personal preference, the KSM9 is nice, but overall I like the E9xx mics better. I own a Neumann kms105 but wonder about the Shure ksm9 as I originally wanted a live condenser mic that resembled my bassists ksm32. I once worked at a church and the music leader had a certain midrange to his voice. Buy both! I agree the 105 isn't very rock and roll. To my ear they sound better on instruments than a KM184. Wouldn't be my first choice in those situations. Slightly more rock n roll..superb feedback rejection too. The 104 is cardioid and the 105 is hypercard. Since this is not a serious record effort (mainly a backup CD for the video capture for webcast of the message) it's also run through an AutoCom on the way to the Tascam burner. Switchable between cardiod and hypercariod. The KMS 105's supercardioid pattern and transparent FR curves are similar (KSM9 has less proximity effect; KMS105 a bit smoother HF bump) and both seem to allow a good singer to sound, well, … Excellent with acoustic artists. I have to agree with Thomas here - small loud stages are best handled with less sensitive dynamics, I think. That being said, super-cardioid mics are very similar to hyper-cardioids other than the fact that there's more front pickup and less rear pickup. It's all in the whole chain! Now not so much. The house sound guy won't necessarily be in a position to take balanced line-level from stage. Neumann, Shure / By admin. Sennheiser e 965. Shure SM86. Comparing the two products above (Rode s1 and Neumann kms 105, respectively), it is clearly evident that the microphones have been made to perform their specific purpose, however much they might look alike. Its precision manufactured condenser capsule offers true Neumann sound quality, combined with all the virtues of a rugged stage microphone: excellent pop protection, low handling noise, enormous SPL capability, and high feedback resistance, thanks to its tight supercardioid pattern. Rode S1 vs. Neumann KMS 105 Showing 1-33 of 33 messages. I'm a little late on this thread. Shure KSM9. Shure ships the KSM9 in an aluminum road case. Neumann KMS 105 – The Tape Op Review. It is a very impressive live vocal condenser. I just picked up a kms 105 and am very impressed with it. For those comparing the ksm9 to the kms105, I have owned both and the shure is much more suited to my voice and stage demands. Well, it ain't a studio sample... but here's our worship leader on a KMS105 in a board mix recorded at a Sunday service in November. I like the KMS105, but its good sensitivity can be a problem in this situation. I'd like to throw that in the mix too. Good luck! Is the SHRPW184 KSM9 replacement cartridge compatible with my current system and does this replacement cartridge offer a selectable polar pattern like the KSM9 Microphone? When you're not using the 105 on voice...try it on snare. For those comparing the ksm9 to the kms105, I have owned both and the shure is much more suited to my voice and stage demands. So between the two the KSM9 is probably your best bet. Available colors: User rating ... suggested Shure SM7B Shure SM58 Shure Beta 58A Shure Beta 87A Neumann KMS 105 Sennheiser e 945 Sennheiser e 965 Shure SM7B Shure SM58 Shure …
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